What are you doing when you take a picture?

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Sorry to hear about your friend. I hope everything is okay.
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This forum is so jumbled...

OK after the first Quake on Sept 4, 2010, but now there's a much more destructive quake on Feb 22, 2011 - 6.3 but much worse damage and part of the cathedral has collapsed too. Been checking the news since the latest quake (just happened to be online when it happened). News and photos coming in fast... hope she's OK as she works at one of the buildings that were reported to been flattened :(

Sent her an e-mail and now I wait... probably for quite some time as power and phone lines are out in much of the city - lots of damage, confirmed deaths, and chaos at the moment.

Christchurch Cathedral badly damaged See: http://hashalbum.com/photo/eqnz/joshlux/8875332

 

 

 

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Safe and accounted for (Christchurch Quake 22-Feb-11)

I was online at the time and when things fell strangely silent ...much longer than usual, I began wondering so I checked USGS recent earthquakes since it's one of my quick 'world checks' and when I saw there was an earthquake at Christchurch, I googled it - broke my heart when one of the first pics up was the cathedral in ruins - at that point I knew things were really bad everywhere in the city. I know it's only a building but its symbolism is forever seared into my heart. The good news is my friends are now safe and accounted for. No one knows how much we really depend upon infrastructure until it's suddenly taken away. My prayers continue to go out to everyone.

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In Response to Re: random shots : [QUOTE]Java It was taking random shots (as you call it) that got me thinking about this topic. Just before our recent trip to Colorado, my xsi stopped working and had to be sent back to Canon for repair. This was a major blow, since I had been looking forward to taking pictures there ever since we started planning this trip. My wife generously let me use her point-and-shoot. Surprisingly to me, I had a blast! Instead of spending a couple hours setting up a shot (as had been my recent habit), I was popping off maybe 200 shots a day. It was great fun. I felt like I had been set free. Many of the shots were fine, too. That experience got me wondering what I was doing. It seemed like the answer was that the act of taking pictures was substantially different from one time to the next. That prompted me to start this discussion, just to hear what others were thinking. Posted by Art_Wannabe[/QUOTE] It seems that gravitating back to point and shoot cameras has been happening a lot lately (myself included) as they are so much more convenient and fast. Instead of setting up for what will hopefully be one well composed shot, we simply shoot a bunch of photos from different perspectives, lighting conditions/exposures, positions in the frame, and angles, and pick out the best one. I have a dear photographer friend I've known for years living at Christchurch, NZ... ***(God bless her after yesterday's 7.1 earthquake that devastated CHCH, its architecture and infrastructure too with potable water being the biggest need now - no lives lost as it was at 4-something AM there and not when everyone would have been on the streets, so that's a blessing in disquise)*** ...who has also gravitated back to point and shoot cameras as they are so much simpler and can also be carried along while mountain biking on the many mountain biking trails that New Zealand has to offer. She's got a lot of great photos both on the trails and in Christchurch City as well, plus a number of others while with a few other close friends of mine during holiday vacations travelling about the South Island too. Something tells me it may be awhile before contact can be re-established again to find out how she's surviving all this and then later on maybe seeing what some of the 'after pictures' look like as Christchurch through her camera's lens was a beautiful city, especially at the Cathedral Square (where 'The Chalice' is/was? located and the cathedral itself, etc) and also along the Avon too, just to name a few places... sorry about the sidetrack but my friend has been really heavy on my mind lately since the quake.
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In Response to re: recording history : [QUOTE]Java It's great the way you have been documenting culture, activities, artifacts, infrastructure, and architechure. I learned a lot about the area from your pictures. Many are splendidly beautiful pictures. Posted by Art_Wannabe[/QUOTE] Glad you have enjoyed all those photos. Unfortunately without the custom tags they were attached to at the old site this made them nearly impossible (without a whole lot of time and patience on one's hands) to hunt for if I had transferred my whole gallery over to here as their order within over 1400 pictures would have made the world's largest corn maze look like child's play by comparison. With those custom tags all related photos could be brought together with a single mouse click, and even interrelated photos under another single mouse click. It reminded me of having highly select access chosen at the simple push of a single button while looking over the waters of a great sea of vast volumes of photos and information connected together by the six degrees of separation. One simple click brough all relevant content onto a single page (or list of pages). Over here since there are no custom tag options all these photos and info would have become completely lost. *sigh* Its unfortunate that others wont be able to explore those tags and all the images and info attached - it was so simple there. Over here I feel as though I have entered deep into the stone ages and have constructed the very first wheel on the planet and am wondering to myself what good is it when it always gets away from me when it's on the side of a hill? Originally when I first got here I tried remedying this by posting key sequences of pictures with my first subject of choice on a long list, The Endor Iron Furnace, in back to back order drawn from one of my tags over there only to have the comments area under one of the photos get heavily spammed and it seemed there was no means of getting rid of spam comments by the mods or myself, therefore I deleted the whole sequence after it sat there for nearly a week after posting my complains (which fell on deaf ears) and then later reposted these photos and related info back into their original back to back order again - lost a bunch of star ratings (as well as placements in the viewers lists, ect) in the process but it was better than the alternative of leaving them spammed. Since then I have given up on the idea of putting so much work and effort into transferring all my old photos over to here in an easy to follow manner only to have them potentially spammed again so now its just random key pictures (probably only 1% of what was over there) being reposted here - still not done yet as I dont want to bury other people's photos too deep too quickly. During the meantime I am also posting current pictures as well too. Ah... the Land of Confusion! (and a few missing wheels too) LOL
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Java It was taking random shots (as you call it) that got me thinking about this topic. Just before our recent trip to Colorado, my xsi stopped working and had to be sent back to Canon for repair. This was a major blow, since I had been looking forward to taking pictures there ever since we started planning this trip. My wife generously let me use her point-and-shoot. Surprisingly to me, I had a blast! Instead of spending a couple hours setting up a shot (as had been my recent habit), I was popping off maybe 200 shots a day. It was great fun. I felt like I had been set free. Many of the shots were fine, too. That experience got me wondering what I was doing. It seemed like the answer was that the act of taking pictures was substantially different from one time to the next. That prompted me to start this discussion, just to hear what others were thinking.
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Java It's great the way you have been documenting culture, activities, artifacts, infrastructure, and architechure. I learned a lot about the area from your pictures. Many are splendidly beautiful pictures.
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Java I've been thinking about something that sounds similar to what you call "the look". For me, I think about food. Some dishes are just satisfying. Others may have the same list of ingreditents and even similar preparation, but maybe they don't taste quite as good. When it goes well, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. So maybe I've been thinking something similar, but calling it "the taste." I guess it's a way of keeping the goal of the "good image" in mind, even though the definition of a "good image" seems to keep changing, just as my personal and our cultural definitons of what tastes good keep changing. Every time we eat something, we know immediately whether we think it is good. I think it's the same with pictures we see. The judgement of quality is usually immediate.
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It occurs to me that, from one picture to the next, pictures come from different places in the photographers hearts and minds. In other words, something makes each picture happen, call it a "driver,", and those "drivers" probably vary a lot across pictures and photographers. The other thing that would seem to vary a lot would be the impact or purpose the picture eventually serves. Sometimes, when the picture does what the photographer intended, the driver and the impact may be roughly the same thing. Other times, pictures are happy (or perhaps unhappy) accidents, when the impact of the photo is different (or more or less) than the photographer intended. (My guess is that most good shots are a mixture of plans and happy accidents.) Other times, I guess, the driver may have little to do with any intended impact of the photo. Sometimes we take shots with little concern as to what they say, who may see them, or the impact they may have. My guess is that some of these are pretty good pictures. I'm also thinking that we are often doing more than one thing with any given picture. I thought it might be interesting to list things we do when we take pictures, either drivers or impacts. I'd be interested in what you may think about all this.
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It occurs to me that, from one picture to the next, pictures come from different places in the photographers hearts and minds. In other words, something makes each picture happen, call it a "driver,", and those "drivers" probably vary a lot across pictures and photographers. The other thing that would seem to vary a lot would be the impact or purpose the picture eventually serves. Sometimes, when the picture does what the photographer intended, the driver and the impact may be roughly the same thing. Other times, pictures are happy (or perhaps unhappy) accidents, when the impact of the photo is different (or more or less) than the photographer intended. (My guess is that most good shots are a mixture of plans and happy accidents.) Other times, I guess, the driver may have little to do with any intended impact of the photo. Sometimes we take shots with little concern as to what they say, who may see them, or the impact they may have. My guess is that some of these are pretty good pictures. I'm also thinking that we are often doing more than one thing with any given picture. I thought it might be interesting to list things we do when we take pictures, either drivers or impacts. I'd be interested in what you may think about all this.
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When I first became interested in photography my main 'driver' was to record history by taking well composed snapshots of various places (and other subjects) that I thought either were not going to be around much longer or were about to become something much bigger in the future. A quarter century later I look back at my old photos and think - How true! How true!! Glad I had the foresight to snap those photos (many of which are the only known ones in existance.) There are a few that I missed though, such as the old steel bridge that once graced Lassiter Mill Road in Raleigh. If I was just a little older back then and knew the right contacts I would have pushed really hard to try to get this steel bridge preserved as a pedestrian bridge for use as a centerpiece for a small park but alas... *sigh* ...and I never even thought to snap a photo either as I had become so accustomed to seeing it that it never dawned upon me that its days were numbered. Anyway, now fast forward a quarter century later and I find my 'drivers' have evolved beyond simply recording history but updating it too, and add to this a whole cornucopia of other 'drivers' that ranged from what I called photo-blogging (recording a whole sequence of events in pictures enough that no words were needed other than naming the place or event -- this all happened after I grew tired of blogging because it ate up way too much time - much simpler to snap a bunch of key pictures and post them in sequence into an online album). Then after many of the online image hosting sites went belly-up I lost interest in photo-blogging and my main 'driver' nowadays is what I like to call 'The Look'. It is difficult to explain in words what 'The Look' is exactly but the best I can describe it is, in my own words 'You'll know it when you see it.' - that one scene that captures the most content with 'content' being either artistic, information, or a combination thereof. As for other 'drivers' another fave of mine is simply going out and taking a bunch of random shots without paying a whole lot of conscious attention to composing the pictures, but simply snapping on impulse when even a hint of 'The Look' suggests itself. Then later on I will sort through all those random shots while viewing them 'full screen' to see what golden nuggets will turn up. It's kinda like a treasure hunt. Sometimes I get whole cards full of duds, but other times I find lots of surprises! Just the tip of the proverbial iceburg here... I could go on, and on, and on...
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Sometimes I see something cool and want to show it to other people, so I take a shot and post it or show it around.